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Growing Apples for Cider Production

In common with many other countries or regions on the fringe of Northwest and Western Europe, Ireland has a climate very suited to the production of cider apples.

Contrary to common perception, cider apples can be successfully grown in all counties of Ireland, and can be grown in many places where the production of eating apples would be a challenge. Many (though not all) cider varieties are among the latest apples to flower, an attribute which is useful for avoiding spring frosts. However, valley bottoms and flat inland sites prone to very late frosts should be considered unsuitable. While the risk of frost is usually much less on slightly elevated sites, the importance of shelter should not be underestimated. Exposed wind-swept sites will be vulnerable to flower damage and/or premature fruit-fall.

On very sheltered sites, there can be a problem of under-ventilation, which raises humidity within the orchard and consequently increases the risk of disease.

The requirements for large commercial orchards are generally more onerous, owing to the need to manoeuvre heavy harvesting machinery in between the trees. This rules out steeply inclined fields and awkward shaped parcels of land, and imposes a requirement that the orchard remain tractor-accessible even in a wet autumn.

Also, owing to the preferred high density planting regime in commercial orchards, canker can become a serious problem. Most commercial cider orchards resort to regular spraying regimes. The small-scale producer of cider apples need not fret about such matters: with greater tree spacing, careful choice of varieties, and similarly careful tree husbandry, the trees can be maintained in a healthy state and good crops can be expected in all but the most severe years.

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Choice of rootstocks

All other things being equal, the rootstocks determine the ultimate size of the tree.These are the most commonly used cider apple rootstocks in Ireland and the UK:

M25 Very Vigorous

M111 Vigorous, high tolerance of waterlogging

MM106 Semi Vigorous

M116 Slightly less vigorous than MM106, disease resistant

M26 Semi Dwarfing



Root-stock Growth Use Staking Spacing Begins cropping (yrs) Eventual yield
M25 Very vigorous Traditional orchards, poor ground 1-2 years 6m+ 5-8 60-150kg
M111 Vigorous Traditional orchards, wet ground 1-2 years 5-6.5m 4-7 40-100kg
MM106 Semi vigorous Orchards, large gardens, espaliers 3-5 years 3.5-5.5m 3-4 25-60kg
M116 Slightly less than MM106

Orchards,large gardens, espaliers

3-5 years 3-4.5m 2-3 20-50kg
M26 Semi dwarfing High density orchards, urban gardens, espaliers, cordons 5-7 years 2.5-4m 2-3 12-30kg


Root-stock Tolerance of infertile soil

Tolerance of waterlogging

Tolerance of dry soil Resistance to mildew Resistance to crown rot Resistance to woolly aphid Resistance to fireblight
M25 Moderate Fair Good Moderate Moderate Poor Moderate
M111 Very good Fair Very good Poor Moderate Good Moderate
MM106 Moderate Poor Good Poor Poor Good Good
M116 Moderate Poor Fair Poor Very good Good Good

For any given rootstock there will be some variation in growth between different varieties. As a general rule, cider varieties are slightly less vigorous than cooking or eating varieties. Trees on the less vigorous rootstocks need warm sites and fertile soil to perform well. Outside of the traditional apple-growing belt (roughly speaking, Louth to West Waterford), such combinations of soil and site are not that common. But this problem can be overcome by choosing rootstocks with greater vigour.

For the grower seeking the smaller tree, M116 may be a good choice, but is not widely available and also isabit vulnerable to mildew. MM106 (more vigorous) may be a better choice. On sites where the ground is heavy, the vigorous M111 rootstock might be the best choice. M25 rootstocks are very vigorous and are good for cold sites or situations where large trees are preferred.


Choice of varieties

Cider apples are grown in many places including Galicia (Spain), Brittany and Normandy (France), Belgium, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Lithuania, Poland, and Norway. And of course Ireland and the UK. In terms of both historical and current production, the UK is by far Europe's largest cider apple producer, in fact it produces more cider apples than all the other producer countries combined and has been producing cider on an industrial scale for at least eight hundred years. Hence it should be no surprise that most varieties planted in modern Irish cider orchards originate from Britain. The one notable exception is the variety Michelin, which comes from Normandy.

Not all apples used in cider making are cider varieties, We will explain more about that later. But first, what makes a good cider apple?


Characteristics of Cider Apples

Cider apples are classified as follows

Bittersharp with high tannin content and high acid content

Bittersweet with high tannin content and low acid content

Sharp with low tannin content and high acid content

Sweet with low tannin content and low acid content

Of at least 120 named cider varieties that have been grown in the UK, only about 15 varieties are currently produced on any significant scale. All have relatively high sugar content (it is the tannin that gives cider apples their astringency). Compared to eating and cooking varieties, true cider apples and a fibrous internal structure that facilitates pressing. A small number of cider varieties are suitable for dessert or cooking purposes when fully ripe. However, a relatively wide range of cooking or eating varieties have characteriastics that may them suitable for inclusion in a cider wash.


Disease Resistance

This is an important consideration. The main risks are canker (which affects the whole tree, but especially the young wood), scab (which mainly impacts upon the fruit) and mildew (which mainly effects the growing tips and young leaves). Varieties that are disease-susceptible will succeed only when there is a regular regime of spraying. The organic grower should select varieties known to have high disease resistance.

Popular Cider varieties

Variety Cider Category Quality Other Harvest Storage Poll Scab Canker Mildew
Ashton Brown Jersey Bittersweet Vintage High tannin Nov Nov 4 VR    
Black Dabinett Full Bittersweet Vintage Good Blender Nov Dec 5 R R  
Brown's Bittersharp Vintage Fruity Oct/Nov Nov 5 VR S S
Broxwood Foxwhelp Bittersharp Vintage Fruity/Acidic Oct/Nov Nov 2 R    
Crimson King Sharp Vintage Large fruit Nov Nov 3 trip VR R  
Dabinett Mild Bittersweet Vintage Good Blender Oct/Nov Nov 4 sf SS R SS
Dymock Red Bittersharp Vintage Well balanced Sept/Oct Nov 2 S VS  
Frederick Sharp Vintage Aromatic, fruity Oct Nov 4   S  
Harry Masters Full Bittersweet Vintage High sugar Oct/Nov Nov 4 SS    
Kingston Black Mild Bittersharp Vintage Distinctive Nov Nov 5 SS S  
Major Mild Bittersweet Vintage Softly astringent Oct Oct/Nov 5 R SS  
Medaille d'Or Bittersweet Vintage Aromatic, sweet Nov Dec 6 sf R    
Michelin Bittersweet Fair Aromartic Oct Nov 5 VR S  
Morgan's Sweet Sweet Light Fruity Sept/Oct Oct 3 trip R    
Slack ma Girdle Sweet Good Rich, aromatic Sept/Oct Dec 3 R
Somerset Redstreak Bittersweet Fair Sweet Oct Nov 5 R
Stoke Red Bittersharp Vintage Fruity, scented Oct Oct 5 VR   VS
Sweet Alford Sweet Vintage High Sugar Oct/Nov Nov 4 SS    
Sweet Coppin Sweet Vintage High Sugar Oct/Nov Nov 4 R   S
Tremlett's Bitter Full Bittersweet Dry Astringent Oct Oct 2 S    
Yarlington Mill Mild Bittersweet Vintage Aromatic Oct/Nov Nov 4 S R S

Key: Poll = pollination group; sf = self fertile; trip = triploid (won't pollinate other trees); SS = slightly susceptible; S = susceptible; VS = very susceptible; R = resistant; VR = very resistant. A blank space left indicates no information available.

While disease-resistance is the preferred situation, slight disease-susceptibility can be countered with good orchard management, particularly in relation to tidying up the orchard after harvest. Disease risk increases in high rainfall areas.

Storage: Month indicates maximum storage in cool conditions (may sometimes store longer)

Cider quality: The designation vintage indicates a certain richness and complexity in the flavour, possibly a consequence of a lower rate of nitrogen take-up by the tree. Opinions vary. What is clear however is that some varieties have that vintage quality and others don't.

Within this elite group, Kingston Black and Stoke Red are considered to have the highest stand-alone quality. Dabinette has excellent blending qualities. Another good 'blender' is Broxwood Foxwhelp. This variety is unusual in that is flowers before most other cider varieties. Crimson King, although a vintage cider apple in its own right, is also good for bulking up other ciders. Yarlington produces a light, aromatic cider. Medaille d'Or flowers extremely late but is self fertile so it doesn't matter too much if all the trees in the orchard have finished. A good choice for areas prone to late frosts.

Of the non-vintage varieties, Michelin is a fairly reliable cropper that produces a light sweetish cider. Tremlett's Bitter produces a dry astringent cider, high in tannin, while Morgan's Sweet blends well with the bittersharps.

Apples - Cider Varieties

Black Dabinette                                           
Full bittersweet, astringent. Probably a sport or seedling of Dabinett. Vintage quality. Fruit dark purple-brown. Very vigorous grower. Resistant to scab. November to January. Pollination group 5. Later and more astringent than Dabinett. Somerset

Bittersharp category. Dark red fruit. Very resistant to scab. September to October. Pollination group 4. South Devon c1900

Mild to medium bittersweet, astringent. Vintage quality. Resistant to scab. October to January. Pollination group 5. Regarded as one of the most reliable cider varieties. Somerset

Gennet Moyle                                       
Bittersweet. Also used for cooking. Resistant to scab. Very strong grower. September to October. Pollination group 2. Triploid. Herefordshire 18th Century

Harry Masters                                                        
Medium to full bittersweet. Vintage quality. Good cropper but can be biennial. October to November. Pollination group 5. Somerset 19th century.

Kingston Black                                                        
Medium sharp category. Vintage quality. Aromatic, distinctive flavour. October to November. In wet areas, can be susceptible to canker and sscab. Pollination group 5. Somerset 19th century.

Full bittersweet. Vintage quality. Astringent. Very vigorous, good cropper but can be biennial. September to October. Pollination group 5. Somerset 19th century.

Médaille D'Or                                                        
Full bittersweet. Sweet, fruity, very astringent. Vintage quality. One for the connoisseur. Compact tree, good cropper but branches prone to breakage. Pollination group 6 (very late). Normandy 1865.

Medium bittersweet. Sweet, aromatic. Vintage quality. Compact tree, precocious. Usually a reliable cropper but in wet areas prone to canker. Commonly used in Ireland for industrial scale commercial cider (heavily sprayed). October to November. Pollination group 5. Normandy 1872.

Morgan's Sweet                                       
Pure sweet category. Sweet, juicy, sometimes used as an eater. Resistant to scab. September to October. Pollination group 4. Somerset 18th Century

Somerset Redstreak                                     
Bittersweet. Very strong growing with good resistance to scab. Can be biennial. October to November. Pollination group 5

Sweet  Coppin                                    
Pure sweet category. Strong growing but can be an irregular cropper.October to November. Pollination group 4. Devon 18th Century

Tom Putt                                        
Generally as a cooking apple but also used in cider (sharp). Vigorous. Also used for juice. Very resistant to scab. September. Pollination group 3. Devon 18th Century

Tremlett's Bitter                                        
Cider. Full bittersweet. Slightly susceptible to scab. October. Pollination group 2. Devon 19th Century

Yarlington Mill                                           
Cider apple. Medium bittersweet, vintage quality. Resistant to canker. October to November. Pollination group 4. Somerset


Non-cider varieties that have a history of being used in cider-making

Variety Use Cider Category Harvest Storage Pollination Scab Canker Mildew
Allington Pippin Dual Sharp Oct Dec 3 R    
Ashmead's Kernel Eater Sharp Oct Feb 4 R    
Bramley's Seedling Cooker Sharp Oct/Nov Mar 3 (trip) SS    
Gennet Moyle Cooker Bittersharp Sept/Oct Oct 3 (trip) R    
Greensleeves Eater Sharp Sept/Oct Nov 3 R    
Katy Eater Sweet Sept Oct 3   R  
King of the Pippins Dual Sharp Oct Dec 3 R S  
Ribston Pippin Eater Sharp Oct Jan 2 SS SS  
St Edmund's Russet Eater Sweet Sept Oct 2 R R  
Tom Putt Cooker Sharp Sept/Oct Nov 3 VR    

Availability 2020/21

The following cider varieties are generally available :

Variety M116 MM106 M111 M25
Black Dabinett


Harry Masters of Jersey      
Kingston Black  
Medaille d'Or      
Morgan's Sweet      
Red Foxwhelp      
Somerset Red      
Sweet Coppin      
Tremlett's Bitter  
Yarlington Mill      

Other varieties may be available, please enquire.

Barerooted trees (supplied November 2020-April 2021)
  Unit Price (euro)
1 tree 2 trees 3-9 trees 10-49 trees 50-199 trees 200 trees+
1yr MM106, M111, M25            
1yr M116            
2yr straight leads MM106, M111, M25            
2yr half standards MM106, M111, M25            
3yr half standards M25            

Special Offers

For end of season discounts on our apple trees please refer to our special offers page


Further reading

Growing Cider Apples - A Guide to Good Orchard Practice, Roger Umpelby and Liz Copas, St Owen's Press

Short but detailed guide covering most aspects of orchard establishment and maintenance. Aimed primarily at the non-organic commercial grower.

Craft Cider Making, Andrew Lea, The Goodlife Press

Comprehensive manual on cider-making, with a short section on the different cider varieties

Success with Apples and Pears to Eat and Drink, Alan Rowe, Groundnut Publishing

Not a specialist cider book but contains useful information on the different cider varieties as well as on the actual crafts of cider and perry making. Has short section on hawthorn, quince and medlar.

Golden Fire - the Story of Cider, Ted Brunning. Authors OnLine Ltd

Wonderfully researched and detailed account of the history of cider production right up to the modern day. And to that oft-asked question, did the ancient Celts produce cider, the answer is probably no! The evidence is that like many other things, cider originated in the Mediterranean area and was brought to Gaul and Britain with the Romans. However, it was the Normans and their English successors who really began to produce cider in earnest, aided undoubtedly by the invention of the screw press, which for the first time provided an efficient means of extracting the juice from the apple.

Cider Apples – the New Pomona. Liz Copas, 2014 (privately published) ISBN 978-0-9568994-2-2

This latest offering from Liz Copas, former cider pomologist at Long Ashton Research Station (UK) is by far the best source of information on the different varieties of apple used in cider making.

Described in careful detail are over one hundred traditional cider varieties plus another thirty or so eating and cooking varieties suitable for use in cider making.  Copas also provides information on several dozen new varieties of cider apple developed at Long Ashton, some of which are now being planted commercially. The text is supported by over 160 high quality colour photographs depicting most of the varieties described.

A section describing the different qualities of the cider apple will assist the connoisseur cider apple grower to make an informed choice regarding slection of varieties.

Highly recommended.

Cider Apples – the New Pomona (Hardback) is available from Fruit and Nut, price €30.00 inclusive of postage and packing.



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